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CM Punk on WWE 'Formula;' Foley Hated Mankind Character; Danielson's Final WWE Days

Nov 1, 2021
CHICAGO, IL - AUGUST 26: Actor and wrestler Phil Brooks “CM Punk” pose for a photo during a screening episode of the Starz channel's wrestling drama "Heels" at the AMC River East Theater, on August 26, 2021 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Barry Brecheisen/Getty Images)
CHICAGO, IL - AUGUST 26: Actor and wrestler Phil Brooks “CM Punk” pose for a photo during a screening episode of the Starz channel's wrestling drama "Heels" at the AMC River East Theater, on August 26, 2021 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Barry Brecheisen/Getty Images)

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CM Punk Says WWE Return Would Have Been Formulaic

CM Punk has already talked about AEW reviving his love of pro wrestling, along with his long list of grievances about his time in WWE. None of this is particularly new information.

However, Punk recently said one of the reasons he had little interest in returning to WWE is the formulaic way they book returns.

“If I went back to WWE, what would I do? There’s a formula," Punk told radio host Josh Martinez. "There’s a track record and a formula. This is what they do. Batista comes back, he wins the Royal Rumble, he main events WrestleMania. Edge comes back. He’s in the Royal Rumble. I think he was in it twice.

“He might have won, I don’t know. He goes on the main event WrestleMania. There’s a formula and I was bored of that s--t 10 years ago, so I’m bored of it now."

No matter which way you fall on the AEW vs. WWE war, it's hard to argue Punk is wrong here. That is precisely the formula. There was a reason Punk return rumors would begin cropping up every year around the Royal Rumble. Fans notice the patterns just as wrestlers do, and it leads to mass speculation. 

For two successive years, Edge made his return at the Royal Rumble. It's just facts. Those returns help build hype for WWE's top pay-per-views, so the formula works, but it's clear Punk didn't want to return in that type of environment. 


Foley Says He Hated Mankind Character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f29JufEYBLw?start=7s

Mankind may have been Mick Foley's most famous character, but the WWE Hall of Famer didn't exactly love playing him. Foley said the constrictive mask made it difficult for him to breathe during an appearance on Talking Tough

“I hated that character because the mask was so … it really constricted my breathing, you know? With the leather underneath the nose. I needed as much oxygen as I could suck in anyway. But it came about because Jim Ross was a big advocate of mine, and Mr. McMahon was never interested in me. He thought I didn’t look like a star. And finally, my name came up in 1995, in the fall, he slammed it on the table, and he said, ‘Alright, I’ll bring him in, but I’m covering up his face.’ And that’s how I got my foot in the door, and luckily, as time went by, he kind of found out I had an interesting real-life story to tell.

“So, I was able to inject a lot more realism into that character and it really was the best thing that could have ever happened to me. The stuff that Mankind did with Dwayne Johnson, when he was my opponent and when he was my partner, was really fun and memorable stuff. Luckily, we were taking peoples’ minds off their problems and they still remember some of the stuff 22 years after the fact.”

Mankind was some of WWE's best character work of the Attitude Era and Foley played him perfectly, so it all worked out from a fan perspective. That said, it's easy to see why having a constrictive leather mask could lead to some issues.

Like he did for much of his career, Foley sacrificed himself in service to the wrestling business and we're all better for it. 


Danielson Was Last-Minute Addition to WrestleMania Main Event

Now that time has passed since Bryan Danielson's departure from WWE, we're getting more information on the latter part of his time with the company.

Fightful Select reported Danielson was actually a last-minute addition to the Universal championship match between Roman Reigns and Edge. Danielson was also praised for his professionalism during his final weeks with the company.

 “Bryan handled things so well that a lot of people didn’t think he was actually leaving or taking any time off. We couldn’t have asked for more," one source told Fightful. 

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Bischoff Rips CM Punk's AEW Ratings Impact; WWE UK PPV Rumors; 2-Night WrestleManias

Oct 26, 2021
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS - SEPTEMBER 17: CM Punk speaks on stage at Living Colour's set during Riot Fest 2021 at Douglass Park on September 17, 2021 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Daniel Boczarski/Getty Images)
CHICAGO, ILLINOIS - SEPTEMBER 17: CM Punk speaks on stage at Living Colour's set during Riot Fest 2021 at Douglass Park on September 17, 2021 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Daniel Boczarski/Getty Images)

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Bischoff Suggests Punk Hasn't Helped AEW's Ratings

Former WCW president Eric Bischoff had some choice words for CM Punk on his 83 Weeks podcast regarding Punk's impact on AEW's television ratings or lack thereof.

During an AEW discussion on the podcast (h/t Subhojeet Mukherjee of Ringside News), said the following regarding whether Punk has moved the needle for AEW as much as hoped:

"Punk hasn't delivered. Punk was the guy that came out and his first comments were, 'The addition of this talent was more significant than Scott Hall and Kevin Nash,' constantly making references to WCW because they want to be the company that WCW was back in the mid-'90s. There's these constant references to WCW. When Scott Hall and Kevin Nash came in, we took off. Punk, you came in and you s--t the bed, in terms of ratings."

Bischoff was referencing something Punk said after Bryan Danielson and Adam Cole made their AEW debuts at All Out in September.

At the time, Punk expressed his belief that himself, Danielson and Cole arriving in AEW was bigger than Hulk Hogan, Hall and Nash forming the nWo in WCW in 1996.

Punk's AEW debut after seven years away from wrestling was huge news, and it undoubtedly had a positive impact on the ratings at first.

While AEW didn't announce Punk's debut ahead of time, it was widely assumed he was set to appear on the Aug. 20 edition of Rampage in his hometown of Chicago.

Despite the show airing in the 10 p.m. ET timeslot on a Friday night, that episode of Rampage averaged an impressive 1.129 million viewers.

Ratings have dropped precipitously since then, though, even when it comes to shows that feature Punk.

Punk most recently wrestled on Rampage on Oct. 15 when he beat Matt Sydal in the opener, and that show brought in only 578,000 viewers.

Bischoff has taken great exception to the idea that AEW is anywhere near the level of WCW in the mid-to-late '90s when WCW was bringing in millions of viewers each week and beating WWE in a head-to-head competition on Monday nights.

AEW may reach that level at some point, but the numbers suggest Bischoff is right for now.


WWE Reportedly Planning UK PPV in 2022

WWE released its pay-per-view schedule Monday for 2022, and it was notable that the event listed for Sept. 3 or 4 didn't include a PPV name or location.

According to Fightful Select (h/t Felix Upton of Ringside News), the current plan is for that show to take place in the United Kingdom.

It was noted in the same report that WWE has put an "increased focus" on holding stadium shows and making WWE pay-per-views a "destination" for fans.

Holding a pay-per-view in the UK is significant, since WWE has not put on a main roster pay-per-view there since Insurrextion in 2003.

The first official UK pay-per-view was SummerSlam 1992, followed by One Night Only in 1997. WWE then held two pay-per-views per year in the UK from 1998-2002 and finished up with Insurrextion 2003.

WWE did return to the UK for NXT TakeOver: London in 2015, and it also held three NXT UK TakeOver events there, with two in England and one in Wales.

A main roster UK pay-per-view has apparently been in the works for quite some time, as heavyweight boxing champion Tyson Fury divulged back in March that he was supposed to face Drew McIntyre at a UK PPV in 2020.

Fury said the plans got nixed due to the COVID-19 pandemic, but it seems as though WWE is back working toward a return to the UK.

It is unclear if Fury vs. McIntyre is still the plan for that show, but given how big of a star Fury is after beating Deontay Wilder again this month, bringing him in would be a major coup for WWE.


WWE Reportedly Holding 2-Night WrestleManias Moving Forward

As part of its 2022 pay-per-view announcement Monday, WWE made it official that WrestleMania 38 will be a two-night event on April 2 and 3, 2022, at AT&T Stadium in Arlington, Texas.

That will mark the third consecutive year of two-night WrestleManias, and it reportedly may be here to stay.

According to Dave Meltzer of Wrestling Observer Radio (h/t H Jenkins of Ringside News), it is presumed WWE will continue with two-night WrestleManias for the foreseeable future.

WrestleMania 36 in 2020 marked the first-ever two-night WrestleMania, and it was essentially born out of necessity since the COVID-19 pandemic forced WWE to hold the event inside the WWE Performance Center with no fans in attendance.

The two-night format was well received by fans, as it allowed for more wrestlers to get on the card and didn't burn out the viewers, as they got to watch two three-hour shows rather than a six- or seven-hour marathon.

WWE went back to the format for WrestleMania 37 this year with fans in attendance, and it seemed to work well once again.

WrestleMania has long been one of the biggest spectacles in sports entertainment, and getting more people involved and more eyes on the product by spreading it over an entire weekend will only serve to make it even bigger.


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Dolph Ziggler Trolls Goldberg; Samoa Joe Talks CM Punk; Latest Braun Strowman Rumors

Oct 18, 2021
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - OCTOBER 04: Bill Goldberg attends WWE 20th Anniversary Celebration Marking Premiere of WWE Friday Night SmackDown on FOX at Staples Center on October 04, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Jerod Harris/Getty Images)
LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA - OCTOBER 04: Bill Goldberg attends WWE 20th Anniversary Celebration Marking Premiere of WWE Friday Night SmackDown on FOX at Staples Center on October 04, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. (Photo by Jerod Harris/Getty Images)

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Ziggler Trolls Goldberg

Dolph Ziggler knows what it's like to be on the wrong end of a Goldberg spear. 

And another one.

And another one.

It turns out Ziggler might've seen his life flash before his eyes taking those bumps. 

"A lot of times you don’t [think about dying in the ring] but maybe if you’re in there with Goldberg, you think about it a lot more," Ziggler told XeniaDidThat.

This is far from the first time Goldberg has been accused of being unsafe. He famously ended Bret Hart's career in WCW, leading to significant heat between the two. Matt Riddle also had backstage heat after saying Goldberg was "unsafe, dangerous and a liability to everyone else."

Never much of an elite worker during his prime, Goldberg is now 54 years old and a part-time performer. We saw how badly things can go in a Goldberg match in 2019 against the Undertaker in Saudi Arabia, but WWE has kept bringing him back because of his name recognition.

Hopefully his match against Bobby Lashley on Thursday will be a little cleaner than more recent Goldberg contests.


Samoa Joe Says He Knew CM Punk Would Return to Wrestling

If you ask Samoa Joe, CM Punk's return to wrestling was a long time coming.

During an appearance on the Kurt Angle Show, Joe said he knew Punk would be back in wrestling in some capacity once he joined WWE Backstage.

“If I know one thing about Punk, [it’s that] if he’s out on something, he’s out on it. You won’t see him being around it, you won’t see him looking at it, you won’t see him staring at it, it’s out of his life and the minute I saw him on the FOX set, I knew his eyes were turning back towards it," fJoe said.

“I think he was just looking for the right place at the right time and he wanted to be happy with it and I think he is. From what I’ve seen, I would gather that he is, so I’m stoked for him and I’m happy to see him back.”

WWE Backstage was a weekly program on Fox Sports 1 from November 2019 until June 2020, with Punk serving as an occasional contributor. The program returned in January for a special for the Royal Rumble but is essentially canceled.

Punk, who retired from in-ring competition in 2014 amid a dispute with WWE, returned to the ring this year with AEW.


Strowman Meets With Impact's Scott D'Amore 

Impact Wrestling has long been the favorite to land Braun Strowman once his 90-day non-compete ended, and it appears they're getting closer to a deal.

PWInsider reported Strowman met with Impact executive Scott D'Amore over the weekend at a hotel bar in Detroit.

Strowman could make his debut as soon as Saturday's Bound for Glory pay-per-view, which will also see the in-ring return of The IInspiration (formerly The IIconics).  Wrestling as “The Titan” Adam Scherr, Strowman made his first post-WWE appearance earlier this month in a win over EC3.

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